But personally I'd go with the SS. @kolkent: The Serum messes with you head? Captain America himself is beginning to approach the physical level of Mirakuru users, but he's had years of further training and conditioning. people are forgetting the SSS , has truly been perfected once (steve Rodgers) , red skull was messed up and all other attempts are well very very deadly, Mirakuru atleast is very high chance it works , even though it alters your psych , it can be restored through practice and mental treatment (ex. Technically Red Skull and Emil Blonsky each got an incomplete version of it. Posted by. The injection of this serum meant further heightened powers for an already able Deathstroke, such as being able to smell explosives, thereby contributing to enhanced senses. This thread is archived. Unfortunately, the scientist who created the Super-Soldier process was killed shortly after Captain America was created, and took all his research with him. Vita Radiation is electromagnetic radiation with a specific wavelength that has stabilizing properties. didn't you come out of the closet recently? Strength, speed, reflexes, agility, durability, healing, and senses are all increased much more with Mirakuru. Had deathstroke (or any other mirakuru enhanced) been given a little more screen time, the outcome may be different. Mirakuru has advantages in striking and provides a better healing factor/maybe durability, SSS is better everywhere else, speed, strength and it even has some nice perks (increased metabolism etc.). The only thing that's bad about Mirakuru is the mental instability, in all others things it's near equal or flat out superior thant MCU SSS. Mirakuru is a Japanese made Super Soldier Serum that causes enhanced physical strength, speed, endurance and durability.During the second world war a submarine crashed near Lian Yu and was discovered years later by Oliver Queen, Sara Lance and Slade Wilson.After events on Lian Yu, Slade Wilson was believed to be the last one who had Mirakuru in him, but he proved otherwise when he ⦠Bad becomes worse. Especially since it gave him the perfect physique. Super-Soldier Serum (Mirakuru) Mirakuru is Japanese for Miracle, the super-soldier serum we created causes enhancements to strength, senses, stamina, and endurance, in particular, were raised beyond human capability, while reflexes and agility were raised only to the peak of human capability. Steve Rogers became the ultimate soldier thanks to a vial or a two of Super Soldier Serum and the aid of Vita-Rays. Or is there no real way to know which is the superior serum? Enhanced physicals and gives the user a healing factor. That's WHY he was picked over physically more appealing subjects: Because with the SSS, good becomes great. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. History Origin. save. Mirakuru is a serum created by the Japanese to give inhuman abilities to their soldiers during World War II. For those who are younger, or those whoâve forgotten, The Incredible Hulk was the first MCU film to show the use of the Super Soldier Serum, and Emil Blonsky was the man it was injected into. I think MCU SS is better off feats.But is quite even with the Mikakuru. I love how the op clearly asks which enhances physicals better and caps fans have to break into mental abilities and which serum has been "perfected" better. Mirakuru Roy caught an arrow when he had never done that as a human. The Serum would give a person increased strength, speed and rapid cell regeneration. In the 2011 flick âCaptain America,â the character Steve Rogers undergoes an experiment in which heâs given âsuper soldier serumâ to increase his strength and cure his ailments. To the death. 85 Dexterity 70. Over the years, every country on Earth (and multiple branches of the U.S. government) have tried to duplicate the Super-Soldier serum. Super Soldier Serum. Also, Sin's friend, Max Stantonwas found in an alley, dead with blood running out of his eyes, revealing that he was injected with the serum, but the attempt to use it on ⦠To the death. Because it doesn't make you become a violent angry psychopath like the Mirakuru does. A deep dive into the Super Soldier Program's history opens up endless possibilities for new characters to be introduced in The Falcon and The Winter Soldier and Phase Four of ⦠Not to mention the insane HF and enhanced senses. @dstreet45: Blonsky got a serum that was trying to replicate the original IIRC. Created under unknown circumstances by unknown parties, the only samples of the drug encountered thus far were on a submarine which was accidentally beached in the China Sea on a small island of no importance. Anyway, it was close, but I don't see it being the true super soldier serum, especially because they didn't give Blonsky the vita rays like Steve was given. Super Soldier Serum. The idea of the super soldier, howeverâsomeone enhanced beyond normal human powers for the express purpose of fightingâ is nothing new. Mirakuru vs Venom vs Super Soldier Serum. Steve Rogers/Captain America's (Marvel Comics) body was augmented by the Super-Soldier Serum. On an unrelated note, I can't help but wonder if, with that 'Good becomes great, bad becomes worse' angle to the Super Soldier Serum, I wonder if they set that up to hint at the Sentry. The SSS only worked on Steve because he didn't have any bad qualities for it to amplify. For the Skull, I think you're right in the fact it wasn't finished or perfected. Many characters are capable of minor superhuman feats, but this changes in Season 2 of Arrow with the introduction of the Mirakuru (basically a super-soldier serum), which allowed the existence of bonafide superhuman characters. During the 1930s, Dr. Abraham Erskine works in a German university doing research into the serum. Xavier Reed is captured by Brother Blood and injected with Mirakuru; he dies after bleeding from his eyes, unable to control or resist the effects. Steve would get dropped by 3 bullets, a random Mirakuru thug would stand there and eat it unless it's on vital parts of the body. The Mirakuru (ãã©ã¯ã«, lit. This thread is archived. In 1940, the formula was tested on the SS general Johann Schmidt, turning him into Red Skull in the process. History Overview. In the world of Marvel, the creator of that serum - Abraham Erskine - ⦠Mirakuru fodder have lifted cars above their head and no selled a shotgun blast to the stomach. The Super Soldier Serum is a chemical solution created and developed by Carlisle Black uses perfected version of the Mirakuru, an Biomolecular Enhancer, the original Super Soldier Serum and Heart-shaped Herb. I'd roll with Mirakuru based on Deathstroke being the more efficient killer and having better mystic,along with the swords.I want to threaten people with sharp things at their throats.:). 100% Upvoted. Mirakuru was a serum that gave Deathstroke (Manu Bennett) superhuman strength. The Red Skull and Steve Rogers, both of whom received the serum, have the physical bodies of men in their mid-to-late 30's despite being nearly a hundred years old. Posted by. And at any rate, it's still a better shot than the Mirakuru, which Sara Lance does mention can cause physical deformations (remember the Japanese skeletons), in addition to making you mentally-unstable. Mirakuru is a serum created by the Japanese to give inhuman abilities to their soldiers during World War II. After seeing all the ridiculous shit Steve has gone through, how does Mirakuru compare? @anthp2000: "So, good becomes great. In terms of physical abilities, there's no contest. Throughout the war, Cap and his partner, Bucky fought alongside infantry and with a group of heroes known as the All-Winners Squad. Ends in Manu Bennet and Chris Evans making man love. In last week's episode, Diaz (Kirk Acevedo) injected himself with a serum that appeared to have a similar effect. I thought it'd made sense though seeing that them using his blood makes more sense than starting from scratch. Roy and Deathstroke) and its healing factor works better , almost instant , whereas the SSS only cuts the time in half. He eventually gained help briefly from Sara Lance along with forcibly making Oliver Queen help in his search as well. Use of the serum ran the risk of not only death, but also driving the subject insane with aggression and hostility, ⦠Subjects that are considered by a enhancement true \"Peak-Potential\" are noted to be Captain America, Isaiah Bradley, Josiah X, Protocide via an SSS variant, and Union Jack via a different SSS. In mixture with the Winter Soldier program and his martial arts prowess, Winter Soldier's overall agility and dexterity are near superhuman. The main Marvel continuity (Earth-616) seems to consistently portray the Super-Soldier Serum as slowing the normal aging process by nearly half. 100% Upvoted. The Mirakuru affects each individual differently. as Miracle) is a Japanese super-soldier serum created during World War II that causes enhanced physical abilities once injected. 3 comments. @the_stegman: This Mirakuru is a Psycho Serum, not a Super Serum. Mirakuru vs Venom vs Super Soldier Serum. report. After looking back in both movies it wasn't. 1 Summary 2 Powers and Stats 3 Others 4 Discussions During the dark days of the early 1940's, a covert U.S. Military experiment turned Steve Rogers into America's first Super-Soldier, Captain America. Reflexes were enhanced to the point they can catch arrows and smell gun powder in bombs. The healing factor really is an absurd advantage Mirakuru has over the Serum. 1 History 2 ⦠I'd take the Serum any day given Mirakuru craps in your head, but in terms of raw stat enhancements, it's better I think. That... that was just a momentary slip up of my overwhelming masculinity. The Erskin Formula (SSS) It seems that the Mirakuru formula makes one stronger and more durable; it also makes you insane, and I already have enough self control issues. SSS, doesn't potentially kill you or make you go on rage filled revenge plots. Hail, and so on? Mirakuru (ãã©ã¯ã«, lit. Vita radiation was used by Abraham Erskine to activate the properties of the perfected Super Soldier Serum as part of Project Rebirth. Mirakuru vs Venom vs Super Soldier Serum. Feats from any MCU material and any CW Arrow material may be used to defend your answers. It seems unlikely, but simultaneously oddly specific. i'd figure such a scene would be glorious for you. Mirk users can punch through reinforced steel and lift and slam cars with enough force tp destroy other cars. 1x The Mirakuru Serum (ãã©ã¯ã«, lit. In the Marvel Universe: . 6 years ago. @dstreet45: I don't remember it being stated. The Mirakuru (ãã©ã¯ã«, lit. In his latest book Chasing Captain America, author and University of Victoria professor Dr. E. Paul Zehr looks at the super soldier's abilities and the real-life research that could replicate them. as Miracle) is a Japanese super-soldier serum created in the second World War that causes enhanced physical strength, speed, endurance, toughness, agility, stamina, reflexes, enhanced senses, and an accelerated ⦠It's arguable either way. Founder of Hydra? And Mirakuru Slade chopped three arrows out of the air, didn't have any feat close to that as a human. No mirakuru has helicopter feats, bulldozer feats and mental stability. 8 arrowverse: mirakuru from wwii In the Arrowverse , Deathstroke got access to a Japanese Super Soldier Serum made during World War 2, known as Mirakuru. With the Mirakuru, even if you survive the initial process, you're still f&^*ed afterwards. 3 years ago. H2H only. The Mirakuru (ãã©ã¯ã«, translated as The Miracle) also known as Miraclo is a Super Soldier Serum that was created by The Japanese during World War II in hopes of creating an army of Super Soldiers. report. MCU super solider serum>>>> Your favourite serum. A soldier specifically intended to be above and beyond a normal man; harder, better, faster, stronger, tougher, more skilled, more determined, built and trained to fight and win. In the beginning, he and Red Skull were both a completely separate tier below any Mirakuru user. Over the years, every country on Earth (and multiple branches of the U.S. government) have tried to duplicate the Super-Soldier serum. Uh, gentlemen? share. 1 History 2 Notes 3 See Also 3.1 Footnotes Project: Sentry started in March of 1947, when a joint American/Canadian government operation employed former Nazi scientists and material from the Canadian program Weapon X in an effort to re-create the Super-Soldier Serum and magnify its effects a thousand times over. Supersoldiers are common in science fiction literature, films and video games. PC Deathstroke vs New52 Bane vs Ultimate Captain America. Based off of what happened to Steve though, the SSS would be better. @jonsmith: Oh yeah...might as well choose Mirakuru then, I don't wanna lose my good looks. Close. Fair enough. They were out of his weight class very clearly, but his fighting skills allowed him to hang, abusing leverage, positioning, grappling etc. Fairly average people have a good chance of making it out of the Serum with a normal face, I should think. share. Close. @anthp2000: It’s not just that stuff, look at the hits Steve has taken, the acrobatics/agility, the dexterity, they’re all far above what a Mirakuru user is capable of. Steve Rogers became the ultimate soldier thanks to a vial or a two of Super Soldier Serum and the aid of Vita-Rays. The SSS. Josiah al hajj Saddiq/Justice (Marvel Comics) After being resurrected by Kronos, Arthur Douglas/Drax the Destroyer's (Marvel Comics) spirit was outfitted into an artificial body by the cosmic entity in order to battle and kill the Mad Titan Thanos. ganon15. The supersoldier (or super soldier) is a fictional concept soldier, often capable of operating beyond normal human limits or abilities. Strength is comparable, speed is comparable. H2H only. hide. The Super Soldier can come in many forms, ranging from government- ⦠3. It was used to activate the properties of the Super Soldier Serum in Steve Rogers and is present in Nitramene. TL;DR: The Super Soldier Serum that turned Steve Rogers into Captain America was derived from the Heart Shaped Herb that gives people the powers of the Black Panther. It's gonna turn you insane no matter how good you are. The serum he was given was a replication of the real thing, but Blonsky demonstrated heightened abilities like super running, agility, and strength. Archived. Mirakuru vs Venom vs Super Soldier Serum. The live action Super Soldier serum that Cap Has or the Arrow's television series' Mirakuru used by Slade and Roy.? @allstarsuperman: They both have healing factors. @stormdriven: I thought the replication was based off of the blood sample Cap gave up after Eskrine was killed. I'd give it to sss based on feats. Variations of the Super-Soldier Serum have been developed over the years which induced greater-mutations than peak human capa⦠Also in the First Vengeance tie-in, Skull was already shown to be a psycho even before the Serum. Which of these two serums enhances the physical capabilities of its users to a greater degree? Puny Steve Rogers became Captain America thanks to the Super-Soldier serum created by Dr. Abraham Erskine, and failed attempts to recreate it are common plot points in both the regular and Ultimate universes.. For instance, the 1950s impostor Captain America used a Nazi German variant of the formula to enhance his body. Now if that's not what you had in mind then don't mind me. Use of the serum ran the risk of not only death, but also driving the subject insane with aggression and hostility, ⦠I mean I'm a good guy, but I am far from straight edge. As seen, it depends on the Mirakuru soldier before they were injected with the serum to increase their level of strength. Mirakuru was introduced in Arrow season 2 as a super soldier serum ⦠Y'know, the omnicidal maniac nicely coined 'The Red Skull'? I guess Hydra probably did the same with Smitdt and used a sample based on his blood on Bucky seeing as he was able to kick a man into an airborne jet engine. For along time after first hearing the story about the serum Anthony Ivo search for the serum with the help of the crew of the ship Amazo. as Miracle) is a Japanese super-soldier serum that causes enhanced physical strength, speed, endurance, durability, agility, stamina, reflexes, and an accelerated healing factor once injected, however its use is dangerous, as the serum can easily prove fatal if not correctly administered. The Super-Soldier Serum is somewhat of a misnomer, as the "serum" actually consists of various processes. It is the source of Slade Wilson's super-human strength. And Mirakuru just turns you into a bloody sociopath. Now who here thinks they are so pure that they'd come out any better with Erskin's Formula than Mirakuru? © 2021 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. It should be similar enough to count IMO. The serum turned a sickly kid into a super soldier. The Red Skull and Steve Rogers, both of whom received the serum, have the physical bodies of men in their mid-to-late 30's despite being nearly a hundred years old. In fairness, it was said that the Serum Johann took was a 'prototype'. © 2021 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. since MCU Super Soldier Serum + healing factor + enhanced reflex and sense = CW Mirakuru. 6 years ago. as Miracle) is a Japanese super-soldier serum created during World War II that causes enhanced physical abilities once injected. Erskine began developing his serum in 1930 while still in Germany. I think you're forgetting the other test subject for Erskin's Formula. RELATED: 15 Times Captain America Killed Someone. Captain America's MCU Super Soldier Serumâs Secret Ingredient Revealed (Marvel Theory)SUBSCRIBE NOW to CBR! Because it doesn't make you become a violent angry psychopath like the Mirakuru does. PC Deathstroke vs New52 Bane vs Ultimate Captain America. Follow 7881. They're healing factor is almost instantaneous. Decades later, they and the paperwork of their creation were desperately sought by Anthony Ivo, a scientist who wanted to create s⦠For the Super Soldier Serum, it's hard to say since Steve is the only recipient. 1 History 2 Appearances 2.1 Arrow 2.1.1 Season 8 2.2 The Flash 2.2.1 Season 6 3 References Anthony Ivo once owned vials of the Mirakuru serum on Lian Yu.1 In 2008, Slade Wilson was injected with Mirakuru.1 At some point, Roy Harper fought Mirakuru-enhanced soldiers.2 ⦠You're crap already. @lubub55: Id say Mirakuru does. The Mirakuru (ãã©ã¯ã«, lit. Archived. save. Mirrakuru - also both serums crap with your head, Steve only ended up the way he did because he had a good heart prior to the serum and the serum only enhanced that character trait. It's arguable either way. 3 comments. Unfortunately, the scientist who created the Super-Soldier process was killed shortly after Captain America was created, and took all his research with him. Subjects that are considered to have been enhanced to their "Peak-Potential" are noted to be Captain America, Isaiah Bradley, Josiah X, Protocide via an SSS variant, and Union Jack via a different SSS. since MCU Super Soldier Serum + healing factor + enhanced reflex and sense = CW Mirakuru. When? He eventually found Lian Yu but found resistance from O⦠@stormdriven: Assuming you're referring to strength, I think large part of it is Steve being the fighter he is; like, holding his own against Ultron, Spider-Man and Corvus Glaive. He continued to train in hand-to-hand and conditioning on the island, working until receiving the Mirakuru serum. Mirakuru has a faster one. 3. I'd be scared to put either one in my system, look at Red Skull face! ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. RELATED: 15 Times Captain America Killed Someone. @rbt: But if you're bad already it's not crapping in your head. Bad becomes worse.". Mirikuru seems to have better physicals and healing. Erskine would later describe to Steve Rogers on how the formula wasn't ready for use at the time, and how the serum's personality-amplifying effects made Schmidt into the evil man he became.After Erskine escaped to America, he joined the Strategic Scientific Reserve. The American Kaiju (Marvel Comics) is a product of Project Troubleshooter, an attempt to recreate the Super-Soldier Serum by using Gamma enhancements, Mutant Growth Hormone, Pym Particles and the Connors Formula. The Super-Soldier Serum is somewhat of a misnomer, as the \"serum\" actually consists of various processes. Which is better? However in 1935, the German doctor left his work in an attempt to escape Germany to avoid the racist Nazi laws but HYDRA (Nazi special weapons division) leader Johann Schmidt, who took an interest in Erskine's work, intercepts the scientist on the German/Swiss border on September 14th.5 years later in the Bavarian Alps, Schmidt tak⦠Mirakuru has the advantage in healing and possible strength, but overall, the SSS is better since it actually enhances nearly every aspect of the being - somehow choosing mental stability and mental instability based on the person's already mental status (Rogers, Schmidt, respectively). At least you have a shot with the SSS. Still, Sentry only scratches the surface of Marvel characters enhanced with versions of the Super Soldier Serum. as Miracle) is a super-soldier serum that causes enhanced physical abilities once injected. Tier: 9-B Name: Pvt. CW Mirakuru > MCU Super Soldier Serum. hide. But personally I'd go with the SSS. Created under unknown circumstances by unknown parties, the only samples of the drug encountered thus far were on a submarine which was accidentally beached in the China Sea on a small island of no importance. The main Marvel continuity (Earth-616) seems to consistently portray the Super-Soldier Serum as slowing the normal aging process by nearly half. @kolkent: But there's no 'good becomes great' thing with Mirakuru. Overview. I don't think anyone here is a murderer (glances around awkwardly)....right? It is the source of Slade Wilson's super-human strength. The super soldier serum, the one developed by Erskine and injected into Steve Rogers and not the one used by the Red Skull, is far superior. I'd personally choose SSS, seems to hurt the user less and also enhances mental abilities and not just physicals.
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